Epsiode 25: You’re gonna drown every two seconds (aka the dubious Halloween episode)
It's a joy to be alive. It's good to be glad. Good to survive. It's great to be merry. It's fun to have nothing.
Ana planeta:Do things in a nude. Oh, it's sweet to be hungry. It's finger licking
justin:And that my friends is the reason that most theater sound design sucks. You know, it's really hard to do. It's like it's as hard as tuning a fucking guitar. Like, 90% of the time, you hear people do sound design, and it sounds really bad. And then you have something like Porto Rix, which is so incredible.
Leon:And and this is, late Porto Rix too. Right? Like, this is, like, 2017. This... The reason I played this is because this was so formative to the era that, you know, Chris brought to Esoterik and and what I walked into when I started the store, and that blew my mind and kind of really ripped my mind open.
justin:And that still feels amazing to listen to, and then I'm just, like, completely floored by whenever I... Like, a lot of the records from that time, even, like, even some of the good stuff, like Rafael Toro or, like, whatever I put it on, I'm like, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sure.
Leon:Or like Philip Jack. But, like, I put this on and I'm like, oh my god. This is so good. Yeah. Like, it just it just holds up so beautifully.
Leon:And the older records too, obviously. And Yeah. So this is just a really nice place to start the episode. Also, bring it back to Chris who should be here with us and isn't. And Mhmm.
Leon:Grateful to Chris for all the amazing shit he brought to my life and Puerto Rican's. I mean, you think about also all the music from that time period, like like, Luomo, all the basic channel stuff, all the, like, the reggae, what rhythm and sound, like, they all kind of shared this universe that was, like, these... Most of those records you go back to, and they're fucking amazing.
justin:Like, they're still
justin:so good. And it's it's definitely a bygone time, but it's it's really powerful powerful music still to this day. So cool. So... And, like, rooted in dub, but then also rooted in some weird underwater world where you're gonna drown every two seconds.
justin:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sonar mid... Like, cold war sonar sounds and what...
justin:Like, it just... Yeah. Magical. So welcome back. Also felt important to bring it back to the OG world, to the history of the store because it is episode number 25, which is Oh,
Speaker 3:sure. Absolutely. So,
Leon:like, we're we're we're a quarter of a century old here.
Leon:That's what I was that's what I was telling myself this morning. Like, oh, yeah. It's been twenty five years. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But
Leon:I think it has been. Actually, if you can, is it pretty close?
jacob:It's pretty close.
Leon:Yeah. Yeah. So twenty five years of Esoterik, 25 episodes of Esoterik. To anyone that's still with us and to anyone new, welcome. Thank you.
Leon:That's the beginning of episode 25. Excited to have you guys here. It's just us today. Excited to see what comes next.
Leon:This... Well, Jacob, if you don't mind, I have something to follow that up.
Speaker 4:I just I just wanted to add a little bit on the porter rakes. I remember Chris was always calling it, like, washing machine music or something like that. Yeah. It was like a... But, yeah, that stuff really
Leon:Lovingly calling. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. He was a huge fan of Thomas Corner and and Warner Ricks.
Speaker 4:And and it's just so thundering sounding. It's so hard to grasp really what it is. I remember I saw them in Montreal. Oh. And it was just like cracking your ears.
Speaker 4:Like, it was really... What is that stuff? It was amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, the the, you know, the the history they're pulling from is really based on on assaultive sound. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Really, really physical physical sound.
Speaker 4:It's very crunchy and very physical. But this... Haven't heard Porto Rex in a while, and this
Speaker 3:is really great. It's beautiful.
Speaker 4:Makes me wanna listen to it. The
Speaker 2:whole album.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Leon:That album that album's great. It's really, really great record.
Speaker 3:Is it on a on a legacy label, or is it Tres... It's Trezor. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Sure. Yeah. So... Yes. Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I... I'm I'm kind of... As soon as it started, I got really excited because it's one of those things where I I am, as usual, unbending in my musical selections, and it... I have... Somehow, we're we're where we put the same coin in the same jukebox.
Speaker 2:So
Leon:I love it. We always do, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So to be completely transparent, I was going for a Halloween episode, which is kind of a dubious aim. But I was trying to think of spooky songs, and this one was top of the list. But despite it being spooky, it's incredible. So this is Icy Lake by That Oven.
Speaker 5:I just thought I'd call before I turn myself into the icy lake. I just thought I'd call before I throw myself into the icy lake. I just thought I'd call before I throw myself into the icy lake. I just thought I'd call before I throw myself into the icy lake. I just thought I'd call before I throw myself into the icy lake.
Speaker 5:I just thought I'd call before I throw myself into the icy lake. I just thought I'd call before I throw myself into the icy lake. I just thought I'd call before I throw myself into the icy lake. I just thought I'd call before I throw myself into the icy lake. I just thought I'd call before I throw myself into the icy lake.
Speaker 5:I just thought I'd call before I throw myself into the icy lake. Before I throw myself into I before I throw
Ana planeta:just I'd
Speaker 5:myself into the icy lake.
Leon:Wow. So good.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, that was Icy Lake by That Oven. It's like a New York record from 1998 that was reissued, like, I think in 2012 or '14 or something. Basically, that... This is, like, before Grime had happened, and it had nothing to do with Grime whatsoever. Grime was, like, maybe couple years further down the road, but it's got all of the main concerns of Grime.
Speaker 3:Like, especially that little kinda Nintendo clicky sound. Yeah. That's exactly the same one. And then, like, yeah, Wily would come out with the ice rink of this track called ice rink with that little clicky sound and, like, the crashing glass and everything, but without any knowledge of this happening. So
Speaker 2:Wow.
Leon:It's like the pyramids getting built in
Speaker 2:three Exactly. Three continents at the same time. So,
Speaker 3:yeah, that's why this this DJ was, like, just looking on the Internet at all. This was like a huge song in the ballroom scene in in New York. And so they were doing, like, research on ballroom and then saw a clip of a Junior Vasquez set at this huge club called Arena that had, like, 10,000 peoples at the same time every night. And he drops this song, and then the dance floor just kinda cuts in half and everyone just makes room. And then all the people just start voguing down on this track, and it was just like...
Speaker 3:It's a really, really arresting moment in that video. Wow. And Oh. And then the the person was like, what the hell is this music? You know?
Speaker 3:This is like... And people are dancing to this. It's like such a weird thing to dance to. But also, it's like... At that time, it was, like, 2010 or whatever,
Speaker 2:and
Speaker 3:it sounded so contemporary. It sounded exactly like what was happening at that moment in in time musically in certain circles. So it it had a second second life with the reissue, and it's a really, really fantastic track. Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:There's something super prescient and weird about the name of the band too because I know that this is not what they named it for, but, like, I was doing Lander and we were in the mastering basement of Warner Brothers where they did all the mastering, they actually had a DAT oven.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Leon:That was to bake the tapes that were all decaying.
Speaker 4:Right.
Leon:And to... When you're... Because the DAT deteriorates and you had to bake the DAT tapes.
Speaker 3:So it doesn't flake off.
Leon:So it doesn't flake off. And there would literally be like, you could use the master once and it was gone after that. Wow. And so there was the DAT oven that was saving and like, you could only bake a certain amount of tapes a day and, you know, and it was this total panic about, like, this whole era of music disappearing.
Speaker 3:I think
Leon:I talked about it in another episode, but I just was, like, losing my mind when I read that title because they kind of saw the future somehow. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Mean, I think it may have something to do with that because the dAT is literally a reference to that technology, the dAT tapes. But just, you know, digital music medium in in general. But the oven part is really interesting. I was I was reading, like, about that band. It's a duo.
Speaker 3:And they're talking about how they wanted to use, like, kind of a collage approach of, like, impose... Just, like, juxtaposing different things together and creating friction so that the the... It's not as smooth. Yes. So the friction creates the heat.
Speaker 3:And so that's the oven part, which is amazing because that oven just sounds like kind of a cool name and kind of like, you know, whatever. But but they went deep with it.
Speaker 2:So it was pretty I
Leon:know I know you're gonna hate this, but it was giving a little negative land to me.
Speaker 2:Exactly. I was feeling
Speaker 3:negative land. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I I don't hate I don't hate negative land. Just find it unlistenable. Actually, I actually really love negative land,
Speaker 2:but cannot stand listening to it.
Speaker 3:There, for the record.
Speaker 2:That was... It was giving some negative land. I was giving some negative land.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Because it
Leon:didn't have that one annoying guy's voice.
Speaker 2:It's always like... Otherwise, it could have been.
Leon:I was feeling it. It's great.
Speaker 4:What a cool Yeah.
Leon:That was amazing. I love that.
Speaker 4:I love this idea that, like, in rage, I guess, could... Since everyone's dancing and they're so into it, you could really introduce a strange track and people are Yeah. Kind of... They're gonna try to work it. Like Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah. No matter how how strange it is. And it's kind of amazing.
Leon:Yeah. That's because the drugs were good. I
Speaker 2:know. No.
Speaker 4:Yes. Absolutely. And the rhythm and the rhythm. Rhythm. The drugs,
Speaker 3:the rhythm, and also just the duration of time.
Leon:Yeah. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 3:It's like you got, like, seventeen hours
Leon:to Gotta drop something crazy at some point.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:And it's also a way of pacing a set too. Right? Like, you drop something like that and then you bring a banger afterwards. It's like, yeah. It's great.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:It's great. That was something. I love that. Jacob, what you got?
Speaker 4:Man, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna hit, like, three birds with one stone on
Speaker 2:this one.
Speaker 3:That's some confidence.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell I'll I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why.
Leon:Because A woodpecker, a dove. I
Speaker 4:I I totally forgot it was the twenty fifth anniversary.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 4:And this track totally hits this era and celebrates that era.
Speaker 3:Nice.
Speaker 4:And and is an amazing... Know, friends of this show are on this, and it's an amazing era. And so it Wow. The second one I had totally forgotten. It was Halloween.
Speaker 4:And this track also hits the Halloween really well. Amazing. And the third one is it just goes perfectly after these two tracks.
Leon:Oh, man.
Speaker 3:That's... I'm
Leon:very excited.
Speaker 4:So so
Leon:I'm gonna be for my next
Speaker 2:support, man.
Speaker 4:I really
Speaker 2:think hard. It's great.
Speaker 4:It'll be good. So that was the mama monkey's live at Passe Le Mani's. I believe it's last night's at Passe Le Mani. Eric Gaucher on vocals, Sam Chilaby on electronics guitar, and Alexandre Santange on electronics as well. What a crazy, crazy piece of music that is.
Leon:I I really want listeners to write in and let us know if this is a case of you had to be there or not.
Speaker 2:I mean,
Leon:considering that that was we were all there, that was one of the best nights of my entire life. But the... And that was probably the most musically accessible. That was... But it's really beautiful to have a document of
Speaker 3:How how Yeah. Absolutely.
Leon:Gold that time was
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Leon:And how ecstatic that was. That was a really special time. That was really something. What... And that performance was
Speaker 4:It's incredible.
Leon:Fucking gold, like gold. Yeah. Crazy gold. Like
Speaker 3:It's... Yeah. That was really an exhilarating listen. Yeah. I got goosebumps.
Speaker 4:I have to say, I think it's some of the best electronics I've ever heard in
Speaker 2:my life. Yeah. Yeah. It tops And
Leon:and vocals.
Speaker 2:And vocals. I mean, how many men can say they have one?
Leon:That guy was fucking incredible. What a performer too.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my
Speaker 3:god. Yeah.
Leon:That was... Yeah. There's there's there's unjust things in the world. Like, the donkeys are not the biggest selling band of all time. You know?
Leon:They were so fucking great.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:Never understood why they were not a million times bigger than they got. But the the world is the world is a strange place, my
Speaker 3:friends. Yeah. I mean, it's... I understand that this was a closing closing night, and so it was like a big night with a lot of people, but it sounds like there's way too many people there.
Leon:There was... No. I've... There's the footage on Mark Loser's DVD from Rivers and Mountains that I've got that has the, like, photos of that night, and it's insane. Like, there is so...
Leon:Like, it's... I think it was a massive fire hazard. We're lucky everyone didn't die. There's, like, wall to wall people in there. It was fucking crazy.
Leon:Like, that was that was such a special night.
Speaker 4:That energy, though, that record... Like you said, that that recording really captures that energy.
Ana planeta:It's Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:It really captures the energy of that era and that time. Like, the... Yeah. That was a a special special time.
Speaker 3:Rest in peace, Pasolamani.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm really sad. I I used to, you know, look at the the the condo that came up afterwards every time I passed there, and now I can't spot it anymore. I... It's kind of, like, you know, very... The memory is kind of liquid and and running all over the place.
Speaker 3:I can't really remember where Passelmanni
Speaker 4:condo now there?
Speaker 2:There's a pub. Yeah. Been a
Leon:condo for a long time. But the one thing that I believe, and I firmly believe this, is that time is nonlinear and actually Passo Meni still exists. So does so does Nazare Market Mexican Chicken on Commercial Drive. There's a few of these places that just will never disappear. Probably esoteric too.
Leon:They're they're just there in the ether. They're floating around waiting to land somewhere. They will land. I mean, I feel like the whole situation with pastel mani was, like, kind of an... Like, it was an egregore.
Leon:Like, it's like something landed on this Oh, yeah. Manifested itself out through all of us that was way bigger than any of us, but that was a that was a special time. What a what a place. What a place. The vampires, man.
Speaker 4:The Oh, yeah. The vampires.
Leon:Yeah. Yeah. Damn. Wow. Many many magic magic worlds were held there.
Leon:What is... Did we have? I can't remember Halloween. Every fucking night was a Halloween party.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. It was not. It's...
Leon:I remember Will Murray getting really mad every Halloween and be like, people just dress up like me once a year.
Speaker 3:Also, a shout out to the ass pirates with their Yeah. Tuesdays.
Leon:Yeah. That was Tuesdays.
Speaker 4:That was great.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Leon:What a what a good time. A good time was had by all for... And, of course, to Tyler Knight, the greatest greatest. And Juanito and Oscar and the... Yeah.
Leon:Many, many extraordinary extraordinary humans that I miss deeply.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Do you know who actually passed away that we know from Passel Mani? It was the drummer of the vampires.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4:He passed away.
Leon:Yan. Yan. Right? Really?
Speaker 2:Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4:No. It wasn't Yan. That's not... No. Not Yan.
Speaker 4:It's like... He was like a... Yan was their drummer at one point, but before that, it was, you know who I'm telling? Like, was like an older person. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:The first one.
Speaker 4:Johnny. Johnny was the name.
Leon:Johnny. Yeah.
Speaker 4:He passed through. And his
Leon:Johnny passed away. I heard that.
Speaker 4:And his his girlfriend was in, like, that, what was her name, not Anita, but the the the the black... The other black girl that was in
Leon:Oh, yeah. Yeah. She was in Janet.
Speaker 4:Janet. It was Johnny and Janet.
Speaker 2:Janet. Yeah.
Leon:Yeah. They were special, special folks. Uh-huh. What a time. What a time.
Leon:Yeah. I miss those days, but I'm glad that I'm still alive. Yeah. That's good. There is...
Leon:K. So then what do you do after that? Right?
Speaker 4:Yeah. It's
Leon:a really, really, really hard thing.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Sorry.
Leon:And I'm like, what am I gonna do with that? So I've been thinking, I think, like, this is one I've been saving for a really long time, and it it actually suits the the Halloween mood. It's the spookiest track of all time to me, so I'm gonna go there. There's another track on this record that's spookier, but it's too not of the times, but I'm gonna play this track. And I won't play the full thing because it's forty minutes long, but I'll...
Leon:But I encourage everyone to hear the full forty minutes. So that's the first eight minutes and thirty seconds or so of automatic writing by Robert Ashley. To me, I like completely life changing piece of music and something that just completely changed how I understood sound and all kinds of things. One of the things that's really amazing about that track is I remember listening to that on vinyl with you guys at Esoterik and thinking that the bass part was coming from next Okay.
Speaker 4:It's true.
Speaker 3:That happened to me right now.
Speaker 2:I thought the universe were
Leon:And it is exactly that. After much research, Bob Ashley's... And this was confirmed by Mimi that the the the the... It's Al Green's Let's Stay Together Wow. Played by his neighbor downstairs.
Leon:And they just thought it was so... And it... And he actually references that in the lyrics to Atlanta as well. And this is a... It's...
Leon:It was so cool to finally figure that out. But, yeah, it was the guy downstairs playing Al Green
Speaker 4:Mhmm.
Leon:While he was recording this. And it comes in and out of the track, but it's just... It's such a powerful part of the piece. Yeah. There's also this incredible thing with that that piece where the texture of the recording quality is also such a character in it.
Leon:And... Yeah. And, I mean, this is... You know, what an extraordinary extraordinary piece of music. Right?
Leon:Like,
Speaker 4:it's just...
Leon:It's mind blowing. 1979, and it was Ashley exploring involuntary speech. She had Tourette's and, like, trying to work with that as a spontaneous way of making music and dealing with questions of intentionality and chance and and, you know, many many good things. But what an extraordinary... The beautiful polymooc stuff that's going on that sounds like an organ through
Speaker 4:all this. Beautiful.
Leon:So it's like fucking bock. It's crazy. Yeah. And, like, as the track progresses, it just gets more and more... Like...
Leon:And one of the things I love about that track, it's it sucks to play only for eight minutes. Like, it's part of what's really extraordinary about it is duration, but, like, just highly recommend everybody go out and track that down. It's on Bandcamp. I'll put a link in the thing. It's easy to listen to on Bandcamp, but it's so great.
Speaker 4:I was just getting into it, Justin. You just had me off from my suite. That's great.
Speaker 2:It's great. I mean,
Speaker 4:you know, I'm sitting by myself in this. Oh, yeah. It's suddenly the the the the... Yeah. You just...
Speaker 4:The carpet went under my feet.
Leon:I'm sorry. Yeah. It's... It can go for a long time, that one. It's...
Leon:I mean, that's one of my favorite pieces. I've... It's also, like, really deeply listenable. Like, it's, like, one of those ones No.
Speaker 4:It's amazing.
Leon:That I listen to very frequently. Like, it's never stopped. In some ways, like, there's some really pretty Ashley too, but I think it's the one that that I listen to quite a bit, like tap dancing in the sand or, you know, some of the some of the operas even. But, like, this is just one that I just always go back to and,
Speaker 4:like, it's a classic. Yeah. It's unlike anything.
Speaker 3:I haven't heard that in such a long time. Thanks for thanks for playing that.
Leon:Yeah. It was... It wasn't on my deck for today. It was the Halloween theme brought it out.
Speaker 2:It was great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:I veered wildly from what I had planned, but it was great.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Thank goodness.
Leon:Although I've had that I've had that on the list forever to play. Like, I've wanted to play that on the show forever and ever and ever.
Speaker 3:Yeah. No. And and, I mean, Robert actually needs to be played.
Leon:Every episode.
Speaker 3:Every episode.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:This really fits again super nicely. I guess
Speaker 5:I'll I'll...
Speaker 3:I'm gonna stop saying
Speaker 4:that because I'm
Leon:just, like, psychically cheating into
Speaker 2:you every time. Yeah.
Leon:Like, making it happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah. We have the best DJ set ever, I think, you know, like, twenty five years.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We could keep that.
Leon:It it goes on and on.
Speaker 3:So this track I'm gonna play, I've been meaning to play for a bit because when I heard it, I got really excited about it. Just gonna read the track title. It's leaving the keyboard that plays itself down by the river between 02:30 and 03:30AM Yeah. 08/03/2017. So this is...
Speaker 3:The piece is one hour long, so I'm just gonna play an excerpt of it. It's by ID Unfestable. So here we go. Yeah. So there was an excerpt from a piece by ID Untheftabl called leaving the keyboard that plays itself down by the river between 02:30 and 03:30AM, 08/03/2017 that came out in 2017.
Speaker 3:Isn't that awesome?
Leon:It's so fantastic. It's also like a thing where I'm like, why can't this just go on forever? Like, I don't wanna
Speaker 3:But it does.
Leon:Stop. Okay. Great. Great.
Speaker 3:No. I mean, it it probably is still going on. No.
Leon:Okay. That's great.
Speaker 2:That's great.
Speaker 3:Yeah. The the the piece is is one hour long. Ideams Theftable is a really interesting artist based in Maine. I think mostly known for, I guess, performing with found objects. A lot of it is...
Speaker 3:Kinda comes off as absurd because he'll often just play with very, very everyday kinda objects, like coffee mugs and ping pong
Speaker 2:balls and
Speaker 3:and stuff like that. And it seems like it has been a source of frustration for him that people are more struck by the fact that he played with a coffee mug or that he, you know, found a keyboard That's
Speaker 2:true then.
Speaker 3:That just plays by itself instead of what it actually sounds like. But he's he's made peace... He's also, like, a very imposing character. He's like... He's a giant, you know, like a...
Speaker 3:Like two fridges, you know, super tall.
Ana planeta:Two fridges.
Speaker 3:So it's quite a... You know, a a show is very, very spectacular. But he's he's kinda made his peace with the fact that some people are gonna receive it that way and others will Mhmm. Will be able to receive it in a in a in another way. But, yeah, I I really appreciate his work.
Speaker 4:Yeah. It's really beautiful. Reminded me a little bit of, like, Walter Marchetti had that kind of poetics to it. Found it was really, really... With the field recordings, really amazing.
Leon:I I broke my wrist earlier this summer, which you might have talked about before, and I had this moment that I don't know what caused it. But when I was getting my arm reset and they... I was on a lot of ketamine and a lot of something else. They had a mix of ketamine and something else. And and the...
Leon:Like, I was living in two... Three worlds at once. I was living in the full ketamine world. I was living in the world that'd be on the hospital table, and I was on this world of observing both of those things at the same time. And it kinda gave me the sense that the real perceptually functions completely differently than how we expected, and that music sounded like what the real sounds like.
Leon:You
Speaker 2:know? That
Speaker 4:was pretty deep.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? Like,
Leon:it actually... Like, there was this thing where I was like, There's this... Yeah. Like, if you think about our sensory input, right, like, it's not really reading any real. It's just...
Leon:Yeah. Anyways, it's a... It was kind of that thing. I'm like, this music makes me feel like I'm actually perceiving something in in a more real way than what I normally perceive. And, you know, to his credit, like, there's something really, really profound in that to me.
Leon:Like, it's like there's something... Like, a deeper understanding or a deeper connection to some pulse and rhythm that's universal or whatever. It's really, yeah, really profound.
Speaker 3:Really profound. That makes me think of, like, the whole AMM, you know, kind of approach of just having things single mindedly happen at the same time, but without influencing each other or really taking into account themselves. But at the same time, knowing that it's it's actually a whole thing in relation. Yeah. But just this, like, yeah, don't listen to the other people and do your thing, but knowing that that's the setup is that you're performing with other people or that the...
Speaker 3:So it's it's kinda like that. It's like the... Just these things. It's like like you said, it's like the real. It's it's like life.
Speaker 3:You know? All these things happening at the same time that depend on each other, but don't necessarily acknowledge directly. But... Yeah.
Leon:Which is kind of what we're in the vast sea of all the time. Right? Like, you know, like, that's effectively the condition of... Formal condition of reality. Right?
Leon:Like... So... Yeah. Yeah. Incredible.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I was I was excited to finally be able to listen to it with you guys.
Speaker 4:I love the frog. I mean, it's like...
Speaker 3:Sounds like frogs. I don't know what that is, but the the way
Speaker 4:it keeps the rhythm is really amazing. It could just go on and on and on and on. Yeah. It's really beautiful.
Speaker 3:I'm... That also reminded me of an early recording that I'm trying to remember who it's by, but it's like field recordings of frogs. It's like a whole cassette of frogs.
Speaker 2:To do the test?
Speaker 4:Yes. To experience it. Yeah.
Leon:I've had that queued up to play on the show for,
Speaker 2:like Yeah.
Leon:Bit, like, the whole time. Yeah. First episode. The... I mean, the the the other thing with this that it makes me think about, like, is, you know, this whole if a tree falls in a forest, like, thing that, you know, people talk about philosophically, and it's a bit of a dull conversation.
Leon:But the... But it's almost the opposite to me. Like, I feel like there's some kind of... You know, like, with the the Akio Suzuki, like, the little listening pads that he puts out that you go and stand and listen, the ear shaped things, and, like, this just existing and people being able to encounter it or not. Like, that there's something really holy and and profound and beautiful about attention.
Leon:Like... And if you... Like, that this asks you to attend, and it asks you to attend in a specific way, and that thing can continue without your attention or not. But by the act of attending Yeah. Something, like, profound happens that I think is, like, has massive significance in a really quiet way.
Ana planeta:And Mhmm.
Leon:Yeah. And it's, yeah, it's really special to me, that that thing.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, it's it's the whole... It's a gift. You know? It's receiving a gift. It's not blessing something with your attention.
Speaker 3:It's being open to receiving a gift and being grateful for it.
Leon:Well, it's just being aware that that's happening continuously and that that, like, it's not about... Like, I... I'm not trying to put it on that person's attention. I mean, that there's this field of stuff that can be attended to that's always there. That's...
Leon:And it's to draw awareness to the fact that that that always makes me think, oh, fuck. What am I not attending to? You know? It's beautiful. Really, really nice.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Leon:Jacob, what do guys to attend to, buddy?
Speaker 4:So so so I I mean, a while ago, received the gift. And and when I received the gift, I thought I got the whole gift, but I only got part of the gift. I now have to wait until December to get the whole damn gift. So so here's the gift that I wanna share with you guys, but I have to wait till December to get the whole gift. So here's a part of the gift.
Speaker 4:It's really wonderful.
Ana planeta:The freeze and the thought alternating. Then bed is for spring. These are the days of fire and ice. Feel the friction, the heavy wind, searching and free Will carry me home And meanwhile,
Speaker 4:I love this piece of music. It's just really one of the most incredible tracks I've heard in a while. Hooray. Lang Lang's... The piece is called division in their new upcoming upcoming album, but I'll have to wait till December to hear
Leon:We'll have to wait till
Speaker 4:We'll to... We'll have to hear stunning, one of the best tracks I've heard in a while, and, yeah, I just love it.
Leon:Yeah. Extremely.
Speaker 4:From from, obviously, friend of the show.
Leon:And and previous guest host.
Speaker 4:And previous guest host. Yeah. Previous guest host.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:And and I think we also need to mention that another previous guest host has a new release out to Christophe Magon. Mhmm. Yeah. It's also very exciting. I wanna...
Leon:I'll put that in the show notes, but he has a really fucking awesome... That I saw you had potentially queued up too, Jacob.
Speaker 4:It's a great track. It's a
Leon:great, great record to... We'll leave the notes about it. So guest hosts keep making incredible music, but this is, like, fucking next level.
Speaker 4:Like What I love about this piece is that it's so unexpected. And when I heard it, I I was blown away. I was not expecting that at all, and it's the most... It's amazing. It's such a great piece of music.
Speaker 4:The singing is amazing. The music is amazing. The the mood is amazing. The instruments are amazing. Everything about it is amazing.
Leon:One of the things I love so much about this track too is that it's so deceptive. Like, it starts out near, like, you're in a kind of space and you're like, this is gonna go somewhere that you know where it goes, and then it goes somewhere different. They're like, okay. I know where this... And then you're like, woah.
Leon:I was not... And then
Speaker 4:your hearts
Leon:exploded and leaked all over the table and you're just like, know, puddle at the end. It's so beautiful. It's so amazing.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I... I'm... I mean, I have obviously privileged information. This...
Speaker 3:The the album is incredible. Like, it's really, really wait. It's it's really, like, in my opinion, her best work. And a big part of that is is the band because it's it's a band. And so shout out to Connor Bennett and Olivier Dumont who also play in the band.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's it's it's really an amazing piece of music. The album is great, super grown up, but also exploratory. Yeah. It's it's beautiful stuff.
Leon:Beautiful lyrics too. Like, it's incredible. Incredible. Like Yeah.
Speaker 4:Next album. Yeah. The voice is so great too. Her voice is so good.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And that's a funny thing because her earlier... Because has been making music for for, like, decades.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:At the at the beginning, it was really just drowned out in in delay and reverb, which is kind of the the
Leon:The thing you do when you're
Speaker 2:shy. Exactly.
Leon:Exactly. Reaction to that?
Speaker 4:That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3:And so now it's, like, pretty much bare. There's something so Robert Wyatt to me.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm very
Leon:nice. And,
Speaker 3:you know, that that gets me
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Pretty deep every time. Yeah.
Leon:It really leads into this song I'm gonna play because I'm playing the grandmother of this song in some sense, and it's it's it's actually a tribute to to Robert Wyatt that was written by a dear friend of his after he had his tragic accident. And it's it's a pretty beautiful follow-up from that, so I'll play that. A song that is not heard nearly as much as it should be. So that's Julie Tippett's Behind the Eyes for r Robert Wyatt from Sunset Glow. Probably my second favorite track off that record, but it felt like just there's something so nice with the piano with the Lang Lang track that played before that felt so nice as a response to that.
Leon:That's amazing. Yeah. She's she's Yeah.
Speaker 3:The record is incredible. It's incredible. There's some very advanced harm melodics
Speaker 4:on on that record. Yeah.
Leon:And yet and yet so utterly, like
Speaker 3:Oh, beautiful. Enlistment.
Leon:Always, like... Yeah. Yeah. It's one of the it's one of the records that gets that balance the best of any records I've ever heard. Like, it's...
Leon:And fully in the Robert Wide terrain too and in the heart, like, just, like, oh my god. So big heart. What a beautiful beautiful beautiful human being. What a crazy... Remember that, like, Crazy Centipede record we used to listen to in the store all the time too?
Leon:That was around the same time as this record and that was her and Keith Dibbit.
Speaker 3:Oh, yes. This is what I was band.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:On the... Is this, like, the Olgahn Yeah.
Speaker 4:Records stuff? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That stuff was magic. Yeah. It's incredible.
Leon:Yeah. And and this kind of, like... And, like, the thing to me with this kind of music is that, like, to a certain level of listener or, like, crate digger or whatever you wanna call it, This music is legendary and and obvious and, like, you know, like, canon. But for, like, ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of the people in the world, this... Like, they've never...
Leon:Like, I remember playing this... Jim White from the dirty three was collaborating with Dana. And, like, he was in the car, and we were listening to this. I was driving his his drum kit to Sala for... Or to...
Leon:Yeah. To Sala because he had his Xeleris White gig. And we were listening to Carney. He's like, what the fuck is this? Mhmm.
Leon:And I was like, this is Julie Tibbets, Sunset Glow. You don't know it? And, like, I would expect that Jim would know and, like, you know, I'm just like every... Like, I wanna, like, I wanna buy a billboard in Times Square for this record. Like, why does everyone in the world not know this record?
Speaker 3:And Yeah.
Leon:It's so... Yeah. And, like, for... I, like, I almost wanna do a show where I just play every track off this record. Like, it's just like Yeah.
Leon:It's really worth everyone in
Speaker 3:the It's a perfect record. Yeah. 100% score.
Leon:It's Yeah.
Speaker 3:Such a good record.
Leon:And for, you know, Lang Lang's record to bring this to mind says a lot about how incredible that record is and what it, like, feels like a peer to it, not a not a pretender, you know, or not even a contender. It's like they're... They feel like the same same movement. So I'm like, what a what a special thing to have a friend making music like that. It's really special.
Leon:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I... Just to go back to that record, it it almost never... The Eilang Eilang record almost was going to be just a band camp, just a online thing because of how, I guess, the attention economy functions. But just fortuitously, she got an email from an acquaintance of... Who she helped organize a show for in in, like, 2022 or something and just wrote saying, hey.
Speaker 3:I'm just repaired my tape deck, and I'm listening to an old cassette of yours and just wondering what you're up to if you're making music. And she was really literally just about to just publish it on the Internet Wow. The the album. And it turns out he has a record label called Lobby Arts Edition. And he's...
Speaker 3:So he's... It's getting a proper release.
Leon:Thank you. As it deserves. As it deserves.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, lucky. Lucky. I'm gonna gonna take a minute just to let things settle, and I'm gonna break the mood and bring
Speaker 2:it back to Halloween. Great.
Speaker 4:Thanks for letting us know.
Leon:Thanks for letting us know.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But this is this is fun. We're gonna have fun. So I'm gonna play a... Some music from a film.
Speaker 3:The film is called Nagina. It's from 1986. It's a Bollywood film, and we're gonna listen to one of the standout musical numbers from it. It's a Halloween theme because the film involves, like, a... The spirit of a snake that possesses a a person.
Speaker 3:So Wow. Wow. I'll I'll also put the the link to the the video because it's... Obviously, it's it's quite fun to to watch. That was something.
Speaker 3:Sorry. I... I'm not getting it right. But it's a track taken from a film called Nagina from 1986 composed by the duo Lakshmi Kampiar Ryal and sung by the one and only Lata Mangaskar who does all of the singing for all of the films for all of time. Basically, every single every single Bollywood film will be will be her singing on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I thought that was
Speaker 4:That was great.
Leon:That was outstanding. It was great. He all... It also made me feel better about my eyebrows as I age.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Speaker 4:Yeah. I
Leon:really did. I'm like, anybody who watches the video will understand
Speaker 2:it. It's...
Leon:I'm like, okay. I can live with them. They're alright. I just gotta get one of those funky horns. It's great.
Speaker 4:Yeah. One of those funky horns.
Leon:Yeah. What a Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Very catchy. I'm gonna be sleeping with that today. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah. Percussion the percussion's great too.
Leon:Yeah. Alright. Incredible. Incredible.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. Yeah. I've been I've been, you know, watching and listening to Bollywood films for a long time, and it's really something that I appreciate a lot. But I... The music is great.
Speaker 3:I often have a hard time with the movies, unfortunately. They're visually always always stunning, but often the the plots are kind of... You know, you could do... You could leave them behind.
Leon:What do you mean?
Speaker 3:No. There's some really, really, really amazing films that I've watched and Yeah. Some that are like, wow. I I really wish I I... It wasn't as repugnant a theme as that.
Speaker 3:But, yeah, that's... I guess that goes with the... That comes with the package.
Leon:I mean, if I was from a foreign country watching 90% Hollywood,
Speaker 2:I'd have feel exactly the same way. You know? Absolutely.
Leon:It's... Or, you know, probably most people looking at other people's, yeah,
Speaker 3:mass entertainment.
Leon:It it caters to the worst always. That's how you make the bucks. That's how you make the bucks. You gotta cater to the worst.
Speaker 3:But there's such a... I mean, such an amazing amount of creativity involved in all aspects of this. Oh, yeah. Because the turnarounds are insane. It's like the orchestras, the string orchestras that play on these, they're, like, working nonstop, and they get the the sheet music the very same day that they're recording.
Speaker 3:It's
Leon:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's insane.
Leon:This is a thing that was so heart... Like, really incredible about India, like, visiting there was how music period and musicianship and that is a life were, like, so woven into every aspect of existence there. Like, it was, like, such a big deal. Like, also one of the things that I really miss the most about India, and it really... James...
Leon:It would be good to talk to James about his speaker installation with this, was the invariability of the just shred speaker that you'd get, like, wherever you went, like, you'd be out, and they would be playing music at full blast out of the tiniest, shittiest speaker you've ever heard in your life.
Speaker 2:With the rip cone. Oh, it's
Leon:a rip cone. And, mostly, it was like it was... Like, for me, from a noise perspective, I was like, this is amazing. Like, we had a buzz for, like, seven hours. We're just like...
Speaker 2:Like,
Leon:it was so good. Like... And just the texture of that, like, will you be walking through a market or whatever, you'd have this rip cone, one huge speaker that's only bass, but it's, like, half torn and half, and then, like, the next speaker that's... And, like, you're just getting this sonic field of just pure intensity, like, blasting full blast all the time is amazing. But I just loved how, like like, music is so much more woven into...
Leon:And it's not like it's less commodified because it's totally commodified, but it's, like, it's just more. Like, it's somehow more a part of existence there, like, undeniably and, like, so fully. And, yeah, and it's just, like, yeah, it's just music is all all all the time and on. As loud as you could possibly have it. You know?
Leon:Like, it's fantastic. Fucking love it.
Speaker 2:It's great.
Leon:Yeah. That was wonderful. Thank you. Also thinking about theaters that I saw there that, like, you'd be walking in the mountains for, like, days and days and days, and there'd be, like, some little tent made of, like, bedsheets, like, hung up with, like, clothesline, and there'd be a a movie theater in it.
Speaker 2:It's like
Leon:Bollywood and, like, a projector and stuff.
Speaker 4:That's amazing. Yeah.
Leon:It was so awesome. Wow. Yeah. Really cool. Thanks, Leon.
Leon:That was awesome.
Speaker 4:Yeah. That was great.
Speaker 3:No problem.
Leon:So, Jacob, why do you why do you go
Speaker 2:ahead? Just to
Speaker 3:to bring her back to some history and some CD Esoterik. Jacob, do you remember the the box... The the the basket of Bollywood tapes that you found at some secondhand store. And that kinda
Speaker 4:Oh, yes. You're right. I forgot that.
Speaker 3:That was insane. And we kept going back, like, day after day That's and, like, right. Getting more and more confess.
Speaker 4:That's right. That's right. I had totally forgotten that. We had tons of them.
Ana planeta:Yeah.
Speaker 4:That's right.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I still... So that that was basically, like, my introduction to the Bollywood stuff was through those tapes, basically.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I totally forgot that.
Speaker 4:It's true.
Speaker 3:It was so fun.
Speaker 4:So so I'm thinking, you know, maybe from something really loud to really quiet, it a good idea. But I also think this is something that might tie in with how we started insofar as the era that this is from, and Chris Wrench was a big fan of this. And it was one of those really exciting moments to me in music where you would buy a CD, and you're thinking, like, is there any sound
Leon:on this?
Speaker 3:Oh my goodness. And
Speaker 4:and so you and Yay. And so you would have to go really, really loud. So I... This is not that bad of an example, but I do suggest everyone listening to just put their speakers to maximum. So this is what I'm doing now.
Speaker 4:I'm going maximum. And it's it's a little... It's slightly long, but it has a beautiful narrative to it. So it makes it kind of just pass the time beautifully, and maybe ties in also with, with the Halloween theme as well. So sanitizing to.
Speaker 4:Doesn't have to. It might... Now you're really loud in my headphones.
Speaker 2:Okay. That's fine.
Speaker 4:Good. Because my head... My headphones are maxed out now. Okay. I'm not gonna say...
Speaker 4:Okay. So so so here we go. Max max your headphones now, everybody. That was John Duncan with Bernhard Gunther, Home Unspeakable. I mean, it's from 1996.
Speaker 4:That's a long time ago for that kind of music.
Leon:We should all talk really quick. We should all talk Everyone still has their speakers in the cloud. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's incredible, though.
Leon:Hey. I remember I remember when this came out, and I... And I'm so excited that we played John Duncan and Bernard Gunther on the on the pod because they're both so mammoth. And Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:What a special... Duncan always... You know, like, it's the greatest thing. Like, musically, artistically, it's just so hard to get people around around him, but he's... Because he's yeah.
Leon:But he but he's so great. Like, he's just so fucking great. And the... Yeah. What a...
Leon:What an incredible piece of music. And that it's kind of the ultimate of that Yeah. Kind of music. Like, I don't think there's anything in that world that touches that record, really. Like, it's really...
Leon:Although you did make me feel really... Like, I apologize to Bob, Ashley, for cutting that social. Like, I feel really bad for not playing the full forty minutes of that now because that track really deserves the full forty minutes.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:But that's a... Yeah. I just figured I'd give every... I often have the person playing way too long tracks, so I thought I'd give everybody else a chance to be that person today. Yeah.
Leon:Beautiful. Thank you. That was incredible.
Speaker 3:So I have a I have a confession to make, but I've never until now listened to a track record.
Speaker 4:Oh, wow. What?
Leon:Yeah. Holy... I understand why. Because by the time you came into it, it was a parody of itself
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:Had become really obnoxious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Kind of on an intellectual level, but had absolutely zero desire to engage with it. It felt really stuffy. Yeah. It's it's such
Leon:a bummer how that happens. Hey. Like, you get a thing. Like, when I discovered when this first happened, it was
Speaker 4:It was, like, early nineties, though.
Leon:Was Yeah. Like, early nineties. I remember I was, like, a kid, but it was, like, it was mind blowing and so exciting and so vibrant, and then it just became so codified. Was thinking about when you're talking about AMM before too, like, same thing, like, where I'm like, the philosophy is amazing. The execution is great, but, like, at some point, it just becomes so codified that it's like, I can't even listen to AMM anymore.
Leon:Like, I'm just like... And I love what the vision of it is and the idea of it, but, like, I went back to the, like, erstwhile... What was it like? Probably the peak of codified was the Rembrandt's hand or something like that. I can't remember, but it was, like, all the AMM people and Finesse and Jim O'Rourke and
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:Like, this massive record of this stuff, and it was it was just unlistable because it was so, like, codified and Yeah. Like like... And I'm just like, why does that happen? Why can't stuff... I guess there's some people...
Leon:Or they quit. Like, you know, the boredoms, I think that's pretty great. Like, it got to the peak of CDrum, and then they're just like, we're done. Like, we can't... It's gonna become a thing that's terrible after that, I guess.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But to to come back to the the piece that we just listened to, it's it's like... I mean, it's quite obviously incredible. It's... Yeah.
Speaker 3:Just the the the ambiguity. I I was also not expecting it to be... Have that much feeling in a certain way just because of the the the the the the patina of the of the recordings. There's still a lot of grain to them, which is something that I was not expecting because in my mind, it was like the CD is like super pure kind of Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Sounding. Whereas this is this is pretty dirty and it's pretty gritty. And it's... And you're not sure what's what is just being captured or what's being produced or it's Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like, so ambiguous. Also, like, just an insanely harrowing title, which just opens up blood of questions.
Leon:It's from Beckett.
Speaker 4:It's from Beckett. Also gives
Leon:it some context. It's like the last two words of the Beckett thing that Feldman and Cage did. So it's, like, also Duncan. So there's a whole other world that layers onto that. But but, yeah, it...
Leon:It's it's important that Beckett context,
Speaker 3:I think.
Speaker 2:And, I mean,
Speaker 4:I love the... There's a kind of, like, a narrative feel. Like, it's very literary. Find you're going through all these different narratives. Soundscapes, and you...
Speaker 4:And I find that kind of rare in that kind of music because it's often just abstract and then granular, but this is just, like... And the way it moves from speaker to speak, from headphone to headphone, and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's very much like a a play with, like
Speaker 4:It's like a play.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Vignettes and... Yeah. I was really, really... All this to say that I was I was quite surprised by by how by...
Speaker 3:Yeah. It not... It being... Yes. I mean, this is sort of what I expected and to sound like, but but it being so much richer than than what I was expecting.
Speaker 4:To me, I mean, the thing... It's one of those things that I've rarely had recently, but where you listen to something and you're like, what is this? Like, what is this music? I've never heard anything like it when I heard it in, like, early two thousand or something.
Leon:There is something quite a bit like it, which we've already played on the show, which was Jane was a bastardeau at, like, the
Speaker 2:bracelet. That's
Speaker 4:A $100 a thousand.
Speaker 2:I gotta get the down. You know,
Leon:like, this is a Absolutely. The same track
Speaker 2:in a
Speaker 4:way. It's it's exactly the same track.
Leon:It's why people don't understand why are you are missing, you know, is the greatest fall album. Yep. I... You know, even our friend from Chicago hates that record. And I'm like, no.
Leon:No. This record is genius. He was doing as the fall.
Speaker 2:Like, it's so it's so
Speaker 4:good. Pretty brilliant.
Leon:So good. It's... Yeah. I mean, this is also, like... I remember the early...
Leon:Like, the very first few Bernard Gunther releases, and they're also, like, unfathomably beautiful. Someone else who did some really interesting stuff that I had that same kind of, like, to... And then later, the later records of her mind blowing is Stephane Mathieu. Like Oh, wow. There's some really...
Leon:There's this... I have this really super rare box set of his that's about ten hours long that is called radiance or something. I'll I'll remember what it is and put in the show notes, but it's like Dana and I listened to it driving back roads from Montreal to Toronto and like it was exactly like, fourteen hours long or something, the road trip we took. And it was just the greatest music. Like, it's incredible.
Leon:And that that... His later pieces are really extraordinary. It's kinda cool too when this stuff goes out of vogue and then people Yeah. Sure. Continue to make, like, go deeper and, like, not give up on what they do and just plow into it harder.
Leon:And, like... Yeah. I mean, mad respect to Stephan Matthew. Like, his later work is unfucking believable.
Speaker 4:I remember with this with this piece too how when it came out, that's when, like, next thing you know, Sam Shalabby and Santosh were just, like, doing this kind of music. I remember when Drew was on. They were they were just doing this stuff. Like, it was such a 7,000,000, like, influential record on that kind of scene at
Leon:the time. Yeah.
Speaker 4:So so you have that great luteness record that I really love on Mhmm. A squint fucker with Shalabi. It's so Yeah. That kind of vibe. So it's it's really great.
Leon:Yeah. This... I mean, what a what a wonderful world of music. It's too bad. I had a piece queued up that I...
Leon:I'm gonna save for another episode by Gavin that is work... He's working on right now. That would be a perfect Mhmm. Next move from that. And it's kind of like he's doing some really, really interesting stuff, so I'll save it for
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah.
Leon:Next episode. But it's kind of like that mixed with the bike stuff that he did. Really, really, really special that I'll save for another episode, but I can't wait to play it. It's great.
Speaker 4:Yeah. I can't wait to hear it.
Leon:Yeah. Guys, what a wonderful thing to hang
Speaker 4:out with y'all. As always.
Leon:That was just a f... It's like happy 25. Yeah. Yeah. Did it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah.
Leon:We made it.
Speaker 3:That was 25.
Leon:I can't... I like... I don't want this ever to end. I wanna be doing this when I'm in my hospital bed when I'm nearly dead. That would be nice.
Leon:It's really nice to hang out with you guys once a
Speaker 4:while We appreciate it. Place.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Absolutely. And happy Halloween to everybody.
Leon:Happy Halloween.
Speaker 3:Yes. Wherever you may celebrate it.
Leon:Even if you got the Texas accent. Even if you got that,
Speaker 4:there isn't. Texas accent.
Ana planeta:Pretend I'm a Texan now. I've even got the Texas